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Lady Anna, I have just noticed that another forum exists, called pduk, on which all the regular posting mistresses have been appointed to moderating roles. This may mean that they will feel a greater allegiance to that board and make only infrequent contributions to UKM which has served our community well for a very long time. It seems to me that the board is in direct competition with UKM and that discreet attempts have been made to encourage some UKM members to migrate or at least register. I can only see the initiation of an alternative board with so many UKM members as leading to the eventual stagnation of UKM as a community. Given what UKM has achieved, that would be a great shame. Out of allegiance to UKM, I will not be joining the new forum unless someone is able to explain to me why such a board is needed. I have already noticed that UKM has been quieter than usual in the past few days. I can see why.
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We don't consider ourselves in direct competition with UKM but we do consider that the internet needed a more up to date and relevant community site for Pro Dommes and their admirers. Rather than wait for someone else to build one for us we decided to grab the bull by the horns and build our own. We now have a PD moderated forum for PDs owned by PDs advertising PDs. We also have the most useful up to date and monitored Mistress Listings, something that I believe we haven't had for approximately 3 years. The demand was there. We answered.
We have obviously told those who we are in communication with what we are doing. People can make up their mind as to which site they can post on. I intend to continue posting on UKM but as a co-owner and moderator of PDUK I will be doing my best to support my own site.
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Peter, I dislike that language of "allegiances" and "competition". PDUK exists because its a fairly free country. Simple as that.
If people want to join it, they will. Nobody is forcing them. If you think that you have to choose or another, that's your business, but it's very misleading. I became involved with PDUK because I thought it addressed my interests and aspirations as to what a PD forum should be about. It's not a criticism to other boards. I've joined different forums over the years, according to my changing preferences and needs. I'm a member of lifestyle forums, PD forums listings only directories, specific fetishes forums... they all cover different needs. Internet forums, like newspapers, ice cream flavours, political parties, gold top milk bottles and skirt lengths, change and evolve with time, sometimes becoming obsolete and forgotten, other times becoming enduring classics. All according to the needs and preferences of the people who use them, and also to external trends. It's not an abnormality, it's not competition, it's not war. They are the product of a demand. It happens with everything. |
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Very sad. I feel that UKM has been a wonderful resource over the years. It has provided advice and support for many hundreds of members and raised funds for deserving causes. All I will say is that my perspective differs from yours and I am happy to let others draw their own conclusions about your motives and 'interests'. The fact that the new board is already dominated by UKM members suggests strongly to me that a proportion of our membership has been invited to join. This is an extremely divisive course of action. I am very sorry to say that after so many years trying to contribute to this board and the UKM community, I feel obliged to withdraw as an active member.
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Nobody has been asked to choose one web board over another. I take offence by your insinuations, Peter, it's as if you are accusing anyone involved with PDUK of maliciousness. There isn't a war, "you are with us or against us". I appreciate this forum enormously, and I hope the immense wealth of knowledge, information and testimonials in it don't get lost. Moreover:I believe that UKM's archives are of great social and anthropological importance. I've even showed them to my PhD supervisors. I hope its owners appreciate its value too, and preserve it. |
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I happen to agree with you, UKM has been a marvellous resource, but that is in the past. I have been a member of UKM for the best part of 3 years and I am still not listed on its Mistress register. That should say it all really. I have personally invited members to join PDUK who I also know outside of UKM, whether it be via IC, Twitter, or because they are, or have been clients. I am sure that this is the case with the other Mistress Moderators and our Administrators. Now that PDUK is up and running and everyone who visits can see what we are now (we started building the site 2 weeks ago) and what we aim to achieve in the foreseeable future, we will be a little more proactive in advertising our board because we believe it is the best site on the net. I sincerely hope that everyone understands our need to have a forum that also supports our business needs, and the needs of members who regularly visit Mistresses, as well as record other members' experiences and interactions. There isn't a 'them and us', never has been and I hope there never will be. Everybody is cordially invited to look at PDUK and register. We will be very pleased to see you and you are always welcome whether you join now, or in the future. I intend to keep my membership here as active as I can hence my recent posts and I sincerely hope UKM stays online but I suspect it's inability to keep up to date and address the needs of its members is causing its own downfall.
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But yes, UKM is a business website, but for the last three years, it's been letting Pro-Dommes' down with its obsolete listings and links. I have a business to think of, and if the UKM owners don't listen to their members' needs, I'll move somewhere else where I'm heard. I love posting here, I've made really good, close friends here. But I also need a website that covers my professional needs, it's not all about the gossip and banter. When I'm here, I'm not playing to the gallery, I'm not touting for business. I've been contributing to UKM for seven years now. Nobody could accuse me of coming here to find clients (it probably hasn't helped me much in that respect), I've been a fan of this site and big supporter. I don't think it's supported me, in the last 3 years, in the way it would have been expected. UKM has survived thanks to its members who have been posting brilliantly, but despite its owners. Last edited by Ms_Tytania; 05-12-2009 at 21:23. |
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It'll be interesting to see how the character of PDUK develops, compared with UKM (though it's true these things shift all the time anyway). But I anticipate that it'll remain much more "on message", in terms of promoting the positive side of things. Perhaps less room for doubts, problems, scepticism (mutual support) to be expressed. So perhaps there'll be a space for both to flourish. It's early days.
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and what makes you think that PDUK will have "less room for doubts, problems, scepticism (mutual support) to be expressed"? What makes you think that? |
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