Quo vadis?

Okies--

Think this really isn't a DoI thread so taking it down to the Oub

Maybe this would be better sorted out privately now? What's happened has happened and, whatever people's feelings about those events, perhaps we could try and keep them off the board and let everyone move on

Not taking any sides - just a bit sad that this has all appeared again

[stdavid]

Dont most forums have thier ups and downs as for member postings go, there are always going to be times when the post count is low, and i suppose you can actually put that at the members feet, if interesting posts come up, folks will reply, i fall into this catogary, when i first jioned and active in sessions, i posted a lot on here, started posts as well etc, over the years my session activity has dropped, i do still see my mistress, but not for sessions, so if i am honest, i cant relate to a lot of the threads anymore, though i do like coming on here and reading the posts, and if i think its worthwhile, post a few things, a lot of people drift in and out of the scene, session, jion a forum, have a break from both, so i just think its quite natural for a board like this to be quiet at certain times, and again, most forums have thier regular posters who keep things ticking over, and quite a few other forums i am on (not bdsm related) seem to be the same, and the owners dont chip in a lot but let the members keep things going, and do the things in the background which need doing, thats my thoughts anyway

[subtle]

I agree with stdavid.

Also, am possibly being a bit thick here, but what more do you need to do with a board than provide somewhere for people to post? Isn't a board, ideally, more of a community than an organization? It may need a little policing now and again, and a gatekeeper, but I don't think you can control its success or otherwise (even if you are a Domme).

[Mistress Susannah]

Originally Posted by Lisal

Okies--

Think this really isn't a DoI thread so taking it down to the Oub

Maybe this would be better sorted out privately now? What's happened has happened and, whatever people's feelings about those events, perhaps we could try and keep them off the board and let everyone move on

Not taking any sides - just a bit sad that this has all appeared again

Actually, I think it's a little silly to hide in the oub.... many know that I'm not having an active go at the mods.... but this is why the other board has come into place. You mods are bloody terrific..... but you can't expect everyone to support a sinking ship - especially those who have a business interest. I sincerely hope that both boards continue to thrive - but I guess I echo Folly's ploy of "where are you?"

I wasn't hiding it - honest!! I just didn't think it was DoI

But point taken - so moved it here

Thanks for the nice words Mistress Susannah but I am still sad this kicked off again (and taking aboard the comments by stdavid and subtle). Kind of makes me wonder about posting on Internet boards at all

Originally Posted by Lisal

Thanks for the nice words Mistress Susannah but I am still sad this kicked off again

It has kicked off for a reason, Lisal: it's an unresolved business. We can't keep on hiding the elephant in the room forever, it's disrespectful to ourselves as members. If I still post here occasionally it's because you, the members and mods, keep this forum alive with your posts and technical support. But as Mistress Susannah says, as a Mistress I need other kind of support as well from a website like this, one that takes into account my role as professional.

[ex nihilo]

Originally Posted by subtle

Isn't a board, ideally, more of a community than an organization? It may need a little policing now and again, and a gatekeeper, but I don't think you can control its success or otherwise (even if you are a Domme).

Good points.

folly facilitates thought on this subject from time to time. Sometimes it’s easy to mistake busy bee activity with perceived value and it's difficult to deliver on all the expectations of a very broad set of members.

It’s unfortunate that it also becomes an opportunity to take pops and jump on the band wagon.

There is little difference in the stats between the two fora, so it’s a mistake to say that one is failing and the other a wild success.

A business forum for professionals will have certain advantages for them but may also have a downside in that it becomes too professional lead, clique-centric and opinionated. One of the strengths of UK-M is the open mindedness and maturity of the Mods and their unwillingness to immediately rush to arms

[Lady Anna]

There are two issues here.

1. This board doesn't serve the needs of professional domination as well as it could for a very very long time now. Where are the listings for Mistresses? Why are you still waiting? How many years has it been now? Weren't you also promised interviews, coincidentally (not) around the time that we started our forum? That was roughly 10 months ago. Where are they?

2. Precisely because we got fed up of waiting for a resource that served our needs we gave up (after waiting for how many years?) and started our own professional resource. For that we are STILL getting grief.

We didn't copy UKM. UKM doesn't have a carte blanche on forums. The forum software that UKM and PDUK uses is used throughout the internet, by anyone who wants to use it, because it is the best forum software available.

We have stories, articles, listings, news. Does UKM? We're still a 'clone' are we?

We're currently developing Mistress Interviews. Does that mean we are copying UKM (except 10 months later admin still haven't done anything about it)? Or perhaps we are copying Dommes.co.uk who have had interviews for years. Oh, or perhaps UKM is copying Dommes.co.uk? It's getting a bit silly this isn't it?

Both forums can exist. The fact that many members (including the 'worker-bee' mods) use both is testament to that. Sam and cerbie can chose to do what they want with their site, as we do with ours. Members can decide which site they want to read, join, post on, as and when.

I don't recall any post on PDUK that says anything negative about the members here. Yes, we have had comments from people joining that they are happy to see a more current site with an active admin, but that is fact, not bitching, and as far as I can recall never personal.

But there have plenty of posts here about PDUK, most of them quite insulting and personal. Now we have accusations levelled at us, the mods/owners of PDUK. Accused of being a clone? Insults by PM? It's ridiculous. Childish and ridiculous. As childish as "Miss! She copied me!" because both children have decided to paint a tree. How pathetic that someone will go to PDUK for a read, but refuse to join (out of loyalty), and then report back here in an insulting manner, as if we are doing something inherently wrong.

If you are that loyal to a much-loved, but neglected site, then good for you, bravo, but don't take your frustrations out on us.

Originally Posted by Ms_Tytania

It has kicked off for a reason, Lisal: it's an unresolved business. We can't keep on hiding the elephant in the room forever, it's disrespectful to ourselves as members. If I still post here occasionally it's because you, the members and mods, keep this forum alive with your posts and technical support. But as Mistress Susannah says, as a Mistress I need other kind of support as well from a website like this, one that takes into account my role as professional.

That I know Ms Tytania

It's the PDUK v UKM stuff that I am talking about - whoever or whatever starts it

They are two different boards with two different sets of mods/owners/members and some cross overs. I'd really like that we all respect that and leave it at that.

I'm sure that there are a few people who have their own views/thoughts/comments on different forums. I know that I have - but sometimes it's best to leave things unsaid and move on (or not as the case may be )

[numquata]

Originally Posted by Lisal

I'm sure that there are a few people who have their own views/thoughts/comments on different forums. I know that I have - but sometimes it's best to leave things unsaid and move on (or not as the case may be )

I am with the venerable Lisal on this one. We all have our views on this. The longest single post I wrote on the old board, a few months before it collapsed, was on this topic. That was then. I cared. This is now. I don’t. The owners never responded to that thread; I can’t see them responding to this one. So what? Time to move on.

Post on here, with all its imperfections, as I choose to do from time to time. Post on PDUK, with all its imperfections, as I choose not to. Post on both. It really doesn’t matter. I suggest we all lighten up. It’s only an internet message board. It was good fun for a while a few years ago and I’m glad I was part of it and met some interesting people by virtue of that. However, the world moves on and hopefully we’re all in a different place now to where we were 5 – 10 years ago. Well I know I am anyway.