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Old 27-01-2011, 10:26   #21
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Also, it looks like this company are now selling the real deal:

http://roomodoriser.eu/poppers/jungl...sje-p-118.html
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Old 27-01-2011, 15:22   #22
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Well, I have placed two orders with PowerPoppers.com in the last week, for one bottle and then two bottles. Both times they debited my bank account, but then sent me an email saying my card had been declined. So it certainly appears to me that I have been scammed.

But after reading your post I'll try giving them the benefit of the doubt. It's true that my billing and delivery address are different, so I hope that's the innocent explanation for why the order didn't go through. (Although, it did go through, since they took my money). I see there's a UK phone number on their site, so I'll give them a call.


They didn't debit the money from your account, your bank did. Then the bank realised that the delivery address was different so they would have told Powerpoppers that they weren't authorising the payment. The money would have been released back into your account by your bank. Powerpoppers never had your money.

It is very common for third party transactions to be declined. Third party is when delivery address and billing address (the one your bank knows about) are different, the automatic assumption being that it is a fraudulent transaction.

The only way you can successfully place an order online is to have the delivery to your home address. Or have someone else buy them for you.
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Old 27-01-2011, 15:34   #23
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Also, it looks like this company are now selling the real deal:

http://roomodoriser.eu/poppers/jungl...sje-p-118.html
What do you mean by 'the real deal'? It clearly says it is iso-pentyl butyl. I don't even know what that is. Iso-pentyl is one nitrite, butyl is a completely different nitrite and there is a big difference between butyl and iso-butyl too. I don't think they even know what it is. The Canadian JJ is currently alkyl nitrite.

Stick to powerpoppers.com. They are the only site I can recommend.
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Old 27-01-2011, 20:13   #24
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They didn't debit the money from your account, your bank did. Then the bank realised that the delivery address was different so they would have told Powerpoppers that they weren't authorising the payment. The money would have been released back into your account by your bank. Powerpoppers never had your money.

It is very common for third party transactions to be declined. Third party is when delivery address and billing address (the one your bank knows about) are different, the automatic assumption being that it is a fraudulent transaction.

The only way you can successfully place an order online is to have the delivery to your home address. Or have someone else buy them for you.
This really doesn't fit in with my experience over the years buying goods online from all kinds of merchants, whether Amazon or adult toy suppliers, and also subscribing to many adult sites. It's never been a problem that my delivery and billing address are different. That's why sites provide a space to fill in "delivery address, if different", after all.

If the money had been taken by my bank, and then the transaction rejected, the funds would be returned to my account. They show no sign of doing this.

However, I do concede that I haven't yet to be able to access my bank statement, so I haven't definitely seen that it was PowerPoppers who took the money which is gone from my account. I'll go into a bank tomorrow and check for sure.

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Old 27-01-2011, 20:19   #25
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What do you mean by 'the real deal'? It clearly says it is iso-pentyl butyl. I don't even know what that is. Iso-pentyl is one nitrite, bentyl is a completely different nitrite. I don't think they even know what it is. The Canadian JJ is currently alkyl nitrite.

Stick to powerpoppers.com. They are the only site I can recommend.
Oh dear - I didn't read down that far! You're right!

It's very confusing - the packaging looks identical, and they make a big deal of it being manufactured in Canada, etc.
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New to the threads, but a few points on poppers and iso propyl nitrite etc (IPN) also applies to the others they are all members of a family, the quality depends on how well they are made and then kept. I would imagine many are diluted, they decompose with heat and light to an acid, which will give brown fumes in air. There shouldn't be contaminants of hydrochloric acid present, since after making them you wash and nuetralise them finally drying the product. The decompsition products and the original material may well affect plastics. This does not mean they will have the same affect on skin etc, there are many examples of this think about acetone used for nail lacquer remover. Any further q's pm me etc
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New to the threads, but a few points on poppers and iso propyl nitrite etc (IPN) also applies to the others they are all members of a family, the quality depends on how well they are made and then kept. I would imagine many are diluted, they decompose with heat and light to an acid, which will give brown fumes in air. There shouldn't be contaminants of hydrochloric acid present, since after making them you wash and nuetralise them finally drying the product. The decompsition products and the original material may well affect plastics. This does not mean they will have the same affect on skin etc, there are many examples of this think about acetone used for nail lacquer remover. Any further q's pm me etc
Some poppers do affect the skin. They burn it, causing blisters. Yes poppers do degrade if kept too warm or in sunlight which why it is advisable to store them if at all possible in a fridge, or at least in a cool dark place. Unfortunately, sex shops tend to store them on shelves or in cabinets under hot lights.
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Okay, so, it was my cock-up. Both times I placed the order with PowerPoppers but they don't take the money straight from your bank account, I guess they process it manually, typically the next day. But both times it turned out I had other debits go out of my account, so it bounced.

However, it's still a bit odd that they ignored both my emails. And according to Archive.org they haven't updated their site since March 2008, which does make me wonder how it can be an accurate reflection of what they have in stock: http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://...erpoppers.com/
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I walked into a UK sex shop yesterday to pick up some Liquid Gold, which is the least-bad of the isopropyl nitrites which (for now) are all I know.

To my surprise I saw bottles of 25ml Jungle Juice on the shelves. This led to an interesting conversation with the guy behind the counter.

"This is a fake", I said.
"No it isn't - it's the real deal!" he assured me.
"Oh, so are you openly selling an illegal product? Because the real deal would mean it's amyl/alkyll, which is illegal."
"Listen, I'm just telling you it's the real deal..."

I took a look at the small print on the label and saw a London address. At that point I realized it couldn't be real. The text on the back was in French. I skimmed it and didn't see any description of the ingredients.

Then, rather hastily, I handed over an extortionate £15 for what I knew must be a fake bottle, despite the contradictory claims being made by the assistant. I wanted to believe!

Looking at the bottle more closely later, sure enough I saw in the French text that it's isopropyl nitrite. There was also a website address - it's this stuff: http://www.fun-line.com/en/jungle-ju...-277-1268.html

Haven't bothered to try it yet, doubt it can be much better than any of the other commonly available UK brands.

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Okay, so, it was my cock-up. Both times I placed the order with PowerPoppers but they don't take the money straight from your bank account, I guess they process it manually, typically the next day. But both times it turned out I had other debits go out of my account, so it bounced.

However, it's still a bit odd that they ignored both my emails. And according to Archive.org they haven't updated their site since March 2008, which does make me wonder how it can be an accurate reflection of what they have in stock: http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://...erpoppers.com/
They have updated their website because up until recently they were giving JJ away as the free bottle if you bought 4 or more bottles of anything else. It is now Nitro for every 6 bottles.

Wayback isn't accurate, never has been. If you read Wayback they do say

Material typically becomes available here 6 months or more after collection

...so anything any site has ever updated in the last 6 months isn't going to show.
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