UKM - Bipolar - UK

Switchable · 14-11-2016, 09:44

Here's another example that will hopefully make some think a little. Names and some details changed for obvious reasons.

Fred is 60 years old. He is bipolar. During his manic periods he engages in a fantasy life visiting online dommes. Prior to diagnosis he sent all of his savings to one of these dommes and ended up a few thousand pounds in debt. He was diagnosed and treated against his will. That was many years ago. Since then he and his wife have managed to clear the debt.

A few months ago he stopped taking his medication. He relapsed and entered another manic phase. He has established contact with the domme he was seeing before. Over the last few weeks he's been sending her/them £50 or so. Last week he remortgaged the house and sent £15,000.

His psychiatrist didn't notice anything wrong. There is no way that a pro-dom would be capable of knowing if their client is mentally ill or not if a qualified and experienced doctor missed the signs.

Mistress Adore · 14-11-2016, 19:56

Speaking for myself if a gent wanted to send that sort of money I would not take it, there are so many flags in this.

subtle · 14-11-2016, 21:09

It must be quite difficult for a pro--Domme to work out which injuries a client is capable of sustaining, and which are going to be very difficult to recover from. This is likely to be equally true of physical, psychological and financial injuries.

Even though some Dommes claim to be able to get inside clients' heads, they're not actually mind readers (nor very often mind doctors) so I suspect that very frequently we expect too much of them.

If the same guy wasted his cash gambling we wouldn't expect an online betting site to be too concerned about his mental health, but there's often something about the fantasy of femdom that can lead us to believe that there's more substance to the interaction than ever in fact materialises. Clients who find a Domme who really cares about their well-being are very lucky indeed.

Switchable · 15-11-2016, 00:02

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If the same guy wasted his cash gambling we wouldn't expect an online betting site to be too concerned about his mental health

Completely untrue. If a gambling site dealt with him then the gaming commission would take a very dim view, and in extremis would take away their licence.

Switchable · 15-11-2016, 00:11

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Originally Posted by Mistress Adore

Speaking for myself if a gent wanted to send that sort of money I would not take it, there are so many flags in this.

I think it's fair to say that you are, how shall I say this, very much the more ethical end of the market!

In this particular case I, and the care team, are reasonably convinced that the domme is a criminal gang somewhere - her story has too many holes in it.

subbylondonbound · 18-11-2016, 15:27

What about if the Mistress has bipolar too? I know of at least one.

18-11-2016, 18:47

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Originally Posted by subbylondonbound

What about if the Mistress has bipolar too? I know of at least one.

I guess in normal sessioning world, you wouldn't know.

Not sure how you'd find out to be honest. And, if she told me, then I'd be fine with it.

Welcome to UKM by the way

Switchable · 18-11-2016, 23:29

I think it would depend on the individual. I'd be quite uncomfortable being vulnerable in the company of someone who experiences psychotic symptoms.

I am trying to think of how the dom might be harmed though, and can't really think of a scenario other than if they only session when manic or indirectly if they hurt a client.

23-11-2016, 23:22

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Originally Posted by subbylondonbound

What about if the Mistress has bipolar too? I know of at least one.

Erm, in my long experience of visiting pro dommes, I've come across 2 self confessed bi polar dommes and 1 pre diagnosed.

In both of the self confessed cases, I just had to walk away - I felt shame but also vulnerabilities especially when one lady was off her meds.😐

This is a really important subject and it swings both ways

14-11-2016, 09:44	#1
Switchable Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Posts: 83 Reputation: 10	Bipolar Here's another example that will hopefully make some think a little. Names and some details changed for obvious reasons. Fred is 60 years old. He is bipolar. During his manic periods he engages in a fantasy life visiting online dommes. Prior to diagnosis he sent all of his savings to one of these dommes and ended up a few thousand pounds in debt. He was diagnosed and treated against his will. That was many years ago. Since then he and his wife have managed to clear the debt. A few months ago he stopped taking his medication. He relapsed and entered another manic phase. He has established contact with the domme he was seeing before. Over the last few weeks he's been sending her/them £50 or so. Last week he remortgaged the house and sent £15,000. His psychiatrist didn't notice anything wrong. There is no way that a pro-dom would be capable of knowing if their client is mentally ill or not if a qualified and experienced doctor missed the signs.

14-11-2016, 21:09	#3
subtle Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 1,037 Reputation: 190	It must be quite difficult for a pro--Domme to work out which injuries a client is capable of sustaining, and which are going to be very difficult to recover from. This is likely to be equally true of physical, psychological and financial injuries. Even though some Dommes claim to be able to get inside clients' heads, they're not actually mind readers (nor very often mind doctors) so I suspect that very frequently we expect too much of them. If the same guy wasted his cash gambling we wouldn't expect an online betting site to be too concerned about his mental health, but there's often something about the fantasy of femdom that can lead us to believe that there's more substance to the interaction than ever in fact materialises. Clients who find a Domme who really cares about their well-being are very lucky indeed. __________________ careless of where the next bright bolt may fall

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14-11-2016, 19:56	#2
Mistress Adore Moderator Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,731 Reputation: 104	Speaking for myself if a gent wanted to send that sort of money I would not take it, there are so many flags in this.

18-11-2016, 15:27	#6
subbylondonbound Member Join Date: Nov 2016 Posts: 83 Reputation: 10	What about if the Mistress has bipolar too? I know of at least one.

18-11-2016, 23:29	#8
Switchable Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Posts: 83 Reputation: 10	I think it would depend on the individual. I'd be quite uncomfortable being vulnerable in the company of someone who experiences psychotic symptoms. I am trying to think of how the dom might be harmed though, and can't really think of a scenario other than if they only session when manic or indirectly if they hurt a client.